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egg bar or Theraputic shoes for Navicular
Post At
12/11/2011 - 8:21 am
reply from
Robert Richards
Currently working on a 12 yr quarter horse.. Several Issues..
1) fussing hock,, about 85% doing okay with
2) front is Navicular.. currently have rockered the shoes..
horse is still lame and in Pain.. Looking at either butting Egg bar shoes on Front,, Looking at Theraputic shoes .. any thoughts , ideas, suggestions..
Robert Richards
1) fussing hock,, about 85% doing okay with
2) front is Navicular.. currently have rockered the shoes..
horse is still lame and in Pain.. Looking at either butting Egg bar shoes on Front,, Looking at Theraputic shoes .. any thoughts , ideas, suggestions..
Robert Richards
Reply at
12/11/2011 - 7:39 pm
reply from
Dr. Esco Buff, PhD, CF
Robert,
Robert,
In my experience, if the horse truely has navicular diesease, there is not much you can do. Find what makes him comfortable for the moment.
If the horse has caudal heel pain, then it seems some horses like a flat shod bar shoe and other like a raised heel shoe, bar shoe, etc.
It makes sense to reduce concussion either with pads or pour in pads but I'm not sure how much it really helps.
Shoeing seems to do the most for me.
Esco Buff, PhD, CF
Robert,
In my experience, if the horse truely has navicular diesease, there is not much you can do. Find what makes him comfortable for the moment.
If the horse has caudal heel pain, then it seems some horses like a flat shod bar shoe and other like a raised heel shoe, bar shoe, etc.
It makes sense to reduce concussion either with pads or pour in pads but I'm not sure how much it really helps.
Shoeing seems to do the most for me.
Esco Buff, PhD, CF
Reply at
12/12/2011 - 6:45 am
reply from
Timothy Dodd
I usually raise the horses angle several degrees, roll the toe put on a thick leather pad and possibliy a straight bar shoe. The other thing to do is to ask the owner not to ride him on hard ground look for softer areas to ride him.
Tim Dodd CJF
Tim Dodd CJF
Reply at
12/12/2011 - 9:37 am
reply from
Jim Goede
I've had good luck using either the Jim Keith TFT steel navicular shoes (raised heel with rocker) or the aluminum eggbar navicular shoe (raised heel with rolled toe). I prefer the TFT as I like an open heel shoe for ease of cleaning and self-cleaning of the foot. Eggbars are more prone to cause thrush if not cleaned out regularily as they tend to trap a lot of "crap" that won't come out easily on its own. The eggbar seems to work better on older horses or horses with more advanced symptoms due to the heel support (IMHO). I usually put a pad on these as well, with some pour-in pad material to reduce shock. Navicular symptoms seem to respond to differing techniques like Laminitis...you just have to try different things to see how the horse does, and adjust as necessary. Jim Goede
Reply at
12/14/2011 - 8:17 am
reply from
chris richardson
Hi Robert, have you had radiographs taken to assess the Navicular bone? It seems we see a lot of "navicular" horses that just have chronic heel pain without any bone changes or tendon issues. I hope this is the case because as Esco says, for a patient with navicular changes there isn't much we can do for the long term. With just heel pain we can often make them more comfortable with some heel support and a nice pad. The trick is to figure out why the patient has heel pain :-) chronic Long toe/low heel is quite often the answer, but certainly not always.
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