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Hoof Angle
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11/ 5/2003 - 4:23 pm
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Name: Joel KomSubject: Hoof Angle
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I have a client that's insistent on achieving a 54 degree angle with her Arabian gelding. She's convinced it will make him better for some reason. (He currently has a 51 degree angle.) I've told her this could be a big mistake and tried to tell her some of the problems it will cause. She says if I don't do it, she'll find someone that will. What do you think? Should I wedge the foot and make it the 54 degrees to pacify her? Or should I cull this client from my list?
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I have a client that's insistent on achieving a 54 degree angle with her Arabian gelding. She's convinced it will make him better for some reason. (He currently has a 51 degree angle.) I've told her this could be a big mistake and tried to tell her some of the problems it will cause. She says if I don't do it, she'll find someone that will. What do you think? Should I wedge the foot and make it the 54 degrees to pacify her? Or should I cull this client from my list?
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Name: Lee Sackett
Email: saktrnch@powerweb.net
I think you should stick to what you think is best for the horse. If you have explained the way the horse needs to be trimed, based on it's conformation, then you have done your job. If the horse goes lame for any reason, and somebody says it is trimed wrong, even though it isn't, then you are going to be the worst farrier in your part of the contry. That kind of news seems to travel faster than the horse that isn't lame. If you drop the horse then there isn't much news to spread around. At the end of the day, I have to face myself with what I have done to the horses that I have worked on, and I can be very hard to please. Mistakes happen and you probably won't ruin a horse in one or two trims, but with a year or two or five years of bad trims you may. So in the long run I have to answer to myself about the horse, not the owner.
Lee
Email: saktrnch@powerweb.net
I think you should stick to what you think is best for the horse. If you have explained the way the horse needs to be trimed, based on it's conformation, then you have done your job. If the horse goes lame for any reason, and somebody says it is trimed wrong, even though it isn't, then you are going to be the worst farrier in your part of the contry. That kind of news seems to travel faster than the horse that isn't lame. If you drop the horse then there isn't much news to spread around. At the end of the day, I have to face myself with what I have done to the horses that I have worked on, and I can be very hard to please. Mistakes happen and you probably won't ruin a horse in one or two trims, but with a year or two or five years of bad trims you may. So in the long run I have to answer to myself about the horse, not the owner.
Lee
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Name: Kim Hillegas
Email: Ladyshooz@aol.com
Joel,
Are the horse's hoof capsule and bony column in alignment at 51*? Have you made the client aware of this? Are her reasons for the increase feasible? Will putting the horse up 3 more degrees be a detriment to him? Have you explained this to her? Would it be possible to bring the horse up with out the use of wedge pads? Have you explained the problem of heel wear due to pads?
Maybe you could bring the horse up for a time and see how it affects him. As long as the hoof axis is not broken forward he should be ok with the increase. Is 3 degrees worth losing a client?
Email: Ladyshooz@aol.com
Joel,
Are the horse's hoof capsule and bony column in alignment at 51*? Have you made the client aware of this? Are her reasons for the increase feasible? Will putting the horse up 3 more degrees be a detriment to him? Have you explained this to her? Would it be possible to bring the horse up with out the use of wedge pads? Have you explained the problem of heel wear due to pads?
Maybe you could bring the horse up for a time and see how it affects him. As long as the hoof axis is not broken forward he should be ok with the increase. Is 3 degrees worth losing a client?
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Name: Wayne Sonnichsen
Email: wsonnichsen@roza.org
Are P-1,2,3 all lined up. If they are then you are doing your job. If not, then I would suggest that you see if getting them lined up can be achieved.
Note that you need to be sure that the dorsal surface of the hoof wall that you are using to determine this angle is actually parallel to the dorsal surface of P-3.
Of course you hoof gage could be off 3 degrees as well.
The angle isn't really important as long as you have phalangeal alinement.
Don't let your client dictate how you shoe horses.
Email: wsonnichsen@roza.org
Are P-1,2,3 all lined up. If they are then you are doing your job. If not, then I would suggest that you see if getting them lined up can be achieved.
Note that you need to be sure that the dorsal surface of the hoof wall that you are using to determine this angle is actually parallel to the dorsal surface of P-3.
Of course you hoof gage could be off 3 degrees as well.
The angle isn't really important as long as you have phalangeal alinement.
Don't let your client dictate how you shoe horses.
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Name: Randy Patton
Email: rpfarrier2002@yahoo.com
I would get rid of this client if you can't reason with her. If she thinks she knows more about shoeing than you do maybe you could hand her the tools.
Email: rpfarrier2002@yahoo.com
I would get rid of this client if you can't reason with her. If she thinks she knows more about shoeing than you do maybe you could hand her the tools.
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