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Name: Bryan FarcusSubject: Farriers' Roundtable
Email: 110325.3272@compuserve.com
I just received the Feb. issue of AFJ and was interested in this month's roundtable question.
Talk about great timing! I am a practicing farrier and just recently dealt with a situation after several return "pulled shoes visits." I came to realize that the problem was actually in the horseowner's weak riding abilities. At first, I was searching for all the things I may have done or failed to do (out of balance trimming, too long of shoe, too small of nails, attempting to clip the shoes-thinking the feet were too weak).
Needless to say, nothing on my end was working. Then, finally one day I saw the problem--the owner's riding skill was dangerously weak. I had such a problem with this issue because the owner was very sure that riding was just an excuse that I was using. Can you offer any advice that may help me in the future, when dealing with such cases?
Thank's
Bryan Farcus
West Virginia Farrier
Email: 110325.3272@compuserve.com
I just received the Feb. issue of AFJ and was interested in this month's roundtable question.
Talk about great timing! I am a practicing farrier and just recently dealt with a situation after several return "pulled shoes visits." I came to realize that the problem was actually in the horseowner's weak riding abilities. At first, I was searching for all the things I may have done or failed to do (out of balance trimming, too long of shoe, too small of nails, attempting to clip the shoes-thinking the feet were too weak).
Needless to say, nothing on my end was working. Then, finally one day I saw the problem--the owner's riding skill was dangerously weak. I had such a problem with this issue because the owner was very sure that riding was just an excuse that I was using. Can you offer any advice that may help me in the future, when dealing with such cases?
Thank's
Bryan Farcus
West Virginia Farrier
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Name: Heidi Mello
Email: arshoeing@northrock.bm
This is a problem all over the world, I find that when this happens I ask for someone else to ride the horse and if that doesn't work, I will say just let me get on for a few. If you are a rider and are sure that it is the rider's fault then jump on if you can, ride the horse collected and see what happens. I will some times say that maybe if I get on the horse that I can feel what he is doing. Try it it might work! It is a very sore subject.
Email: arshoeing@northrock.bm
This is a problem all over the world, I find that when this happens I ask for someone else to ride the horse and if that doesn't work, I will say just let me get on for a few. If you are a rider and are sure that it is the rider's fault then jump on if you can, ride the horse collected and see what happens. I will some times say that maybe if I get on the horse that I can feel what he is doing. Try it it might work! It is a very sore subject.
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Name: Joe Schembari
Email: enika1@gateway.net
Well this is certainly a refreshing message. A wise man once told me that most of the time a horses problems are ones created by the owner/rider. I keep this in mind every time I have to make a return visit. I don't charge to put a shoe back on, nor do I charge if I have to make a special trip to the farm. The vast majority of owner/riders are amatures and therefore do not realize that they are the cause. They would rather blame the problem on me. By offering the return service for free it gives these people a feeling that I really care about doing a good job even at my own expense.
I started shoeing this appy. about eight months ago, and like clockwork I go back three weeks later and put one of the front shoes back on. The horse has an unusually short back and over tracks by 3 to 4 hoof prints even at the walk. I've tried clips, cut heels, spooned heels, I've tried changing the break over in the front and rear, and the owner has even been using bell-boots, and like clockwork every three weeks back I go. She never complains and she even keeps recomending me to her friends. I've gotten three new barns just from her alone. Just to set the recod straight, I do not have this problem with ANY of my other horses.
I guess this just shows that sometimes good service can make someone just as happy as good craftmanship. Thanks to a great instructor at Meredith Manor International Equestrian Centre, I have been able to incorporate both concepts into my business and be sucessful.
Email: enika1@gateway.net
Well this is certainly a refreshing message. A wise man once told me that most of the time a horses problems are ones created by the owner/rider. I keep this in mind every time I have to make a return visit. I don't charge to put a shoe back on, nor do I charge if I have to make a special trip to the farm. The vast majority of owner/riders are amatures and therefore do not realize that they are the cause. They would rather blame the problem on me. By offering the return service for free it gives these people a feeling that I really care about doing a good job even at my own expense.
I started shoeing this appy. about eight months ago, and like clockwork I go back three weeks later and put one of the front shoes back on. The horse has an unusually short back and over tracks by 3 to 4 hoof prints even at the walk. I've tried clips, cut heels, spooned heels, I've tried changing the break over in the front and rear, and the owner has even been using bell-boots, and like clockwork every three weeks back I go. She never complains and she even keeps recomending me to her friends. I've gotten three new barns just from her alone. Just to set the recod straight, I do not have this problem with ANY of my other horses.
I guess this just shows that sometimes good service can make someone just as happy as good craftmanship. Thanks to a great instructor at Meredith Manor International Equestrian Centre, I have been able to incorporate both concepts into my business and be sucessful.
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Name: Bryan Farcus
Email: enika1@gateway.com
You know, the old saying must be true -- "a good deed will always go full circle". Joe it's great to hear from you in this unexpected manner. I must confess that this question I pose on the Roundtable was a "loaded" one. I was experimenting to see what kinds of response I would receive. I'm thrilled that you are practicing what I have preached!
Your advice to me is proof that I have been a good influence in your shoeing training. Your advice is logical & helpful, and I can tell that your easy words comes from your hard work. Keep up the good work!
Bryan Farcus.
Email: enika1@gateway.com
You know, the old saying must be true -- "a good deed will always go full circle". Joe it's great to hear from you in this unexpected manner. I must confess that this question I pose on the Roundtable was a "loaded" one. I was experimenting to see what kinds of response I would receive. I'm thrilled that you are practicing what I have preached!
Your advice to me is proof that I have been a good influence in your shoeing training. Your advice is logical & helpful, and I can tell that your easy words comes from your hard work. Keep up the good work!
Bryan Farcus.
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