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Barefoot Fails Miserably On The East Coast?
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09/ 2/2009 - 8:19 am
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Mary Watkins
I am trying to clarify a statement I heard a few weeks ago. The veterinarian that said it had "heard" it from someone else.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to get to the source of this statement?

"At the AAEP convention, Gene Ovnicek just said the barefoot technique horses that were so successful back west failed miserably in the eastern states."

I am suspecting the statement may not be true.

Thank you.
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09/ 3/2009 - 12:52 pm
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chris diehl
He probaly meant that because of the different environment and differnt terrian that some horses do not respond as well to the "barefoot trimming "styles as they do out west. the climate is consatntly changing here I have horses that go well barefoot one summer then fall apart the next. I'm sure he wasn't talking about every horse on the east coast 50% of my horses are barefoot and will remain that way. It takes a different approach to trimming that makes the difference.
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09/ 4/2009 - 11:07 pm
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Nicholas Denson
I am always suspect of statements that someone else heard. Remember the telephone game when we were kids? Things have a way of changing. Even a subtle change in tone can horribly change the sentiment of the entire statement.

That being said, this year the east coast (or at least New England) had one of the wettest summers on record. Horses that were turned out in the knee deep mud that we had suffered regardless of being shod or barefoot.

No single shoeing/trimming modality will work universally. There are no magic trims, or shoes.

Nick Denson
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09/ 5/2009 - 6:27 pm
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Dr. Esco Buff, PhD, AFA-CF
Hello Mary,

I find the best way to clarify a statement is to go to the sources themselves. You may e-mail Gene at: gene@hopeforsoundness.com in order to find out if the statement was verbalized or not.

Blessings,

Esco Buff, PhD, CF
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09/ 7/2009 - 8:12 am
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chris diehl
"nuff said" Esco way to nip this one in the bud I wish more people in this industry would do what you did.
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10/24/2009 - 4:13 am
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Heidi Meyer
Being a trimmer here in NE and a horse owner, I see first hand the effects of environment (and a varied diet like New England Hay!) Out west, their hay crop is pretty predictable and people can get their forage source usually from one person. In the Northeastern states, most horse owners are at the mercy of the local hay crop (of which the sugar content can vary drastically from one 50 bales to the next!) Also, wetter conditions make people leave their horses in stalls more often (cutting down on circulation...which directly affects frog circulation and growth stimulation) and further causes horses to be exposed to more urine/manure.

MY horses are out 24/7, unfortunately my leased barn is on a hill, water drains right by it, mud is everywhere except high end and of course, inthe barn is dry.

My barefoot THOROUGHBREDS had no thrush this year and it was the wettest one yet. Get the sugar out of the diet, keep tabs on your hay, keep frogs circulation at an optimum level and keep toes short.....simple.

 

Western horses have contraction and dried out hooves as their issues, Eastern horses have constantly changing environments (wet to dry) and is far less forgiving to less than optimal hoof function (heel to toe landing a must, frog involvement a must, short toes a must). Each horse, each environment is different....but the hoof FUNCTIONS the same, regardless. KEep that in mind.
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12/23/2010 - 4:06 pm
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Rebecca J Scott
Well regardless of whether Gene Ovnicek said it or not there is some basis in the assertion that barefooting can fall apart in the spring. But so do shod feet, just that nobody notices!

 

Because as one poster pointed out, the sugar levels in the feed generally skyrocket in the spring. And that is causing subclinical (or maybe NOT subclinical) laminitis. The rich feed causes changes in the hindgut bacteria which migrates (and Dr Chris Pollitt, Queensland University, Australia is a world expert in this process) to the feet causing inflammation and delamination.

 

And what we see as trimmers in these areas of lush growth is that the feet deteriorate as the diet increases in sugars.

 

No amount of trimming (or shoeing) will save them. The root cause is diet and that needs to be addressed. The danger passes as the sugar levels in the pasture drop. However, sugar levels are affected not only by the reproductive cycle of the grass but also by the environment..particualrly the weather. Grasses grown with lots of sunlight will have higher levels of sugars than those (for example) which are subjected to a number of overcast, cloudy days. Hay cut after a week of sunshine will have higher sugar levels than hay cut after overcast days.

 

So even if Gene Ovnicek didn't say that barefooting fell over in the rain prone states in the spring....I'd bet my bottom dollar that it did. I have it happening here in Australia on some of the lush pastured areas on my runs. And its not for want of regular trimming as all my clients are on four weekly trim cycles.

 

Cheers

Rebecca in Oz
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12/30/2010 - 4:39 pm
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chris richardson
I see you are interested in grass/sugar levels rebecca, check out http://safergrass.org/ you will find a wealth of information there.

Cheers,

Chris
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10/31/2011 - 6:18 pm
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Erika Karrei
It's reasuring to hear someone has horses on a four week cycle. My horse's feet are growing like weeds. He's too long in the toe already and his heals are over the edges of the shoes at places. it's only four weeks since my farrier's seen him. He can't come this week and I hope he can come next week - he says he'll see, so the horse will have to wait. Too bad there's no way to slow them down.
  

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